Originally by: Orangir

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Originally by: DB Preacher

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Edited by: DB Preacher on 24/07/2007 08:59:49
You were doing alright until the 2nd, 3rd and 4th pages then it turned into a pile of wannahappens.

Nice read though even if it was fictional rubbish.

Read the replies from thug, pehova etc for a more realistic viewpoint.

dbp

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Please tell us more about fictional CAOD rubbish.

I hear you have personal experience.

There are no goons.

Corpses in space.

-dbp

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Originally by: Malachon Draco

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Well, what happened is exactly what one Goon in that very thread said:"Don't take this the wrong way, but the majority of us don't want to be a part of the "old school Eve community." From comparing that thread for example to the exchanges we've seen in the past 9 months, I am pretty sure the only conclusion can be that 'the old Eve community' is dead. For better or for worse maybe, but dead it is.

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Originally by: Kozak

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ASCN got more of what you are talking about from BoB members then I can see anyone else getting from goons. If this is why old timers are leaving, you guys created this kind of environment. I would look at your own history first.

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Originally by: Malachon Draco

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Originally by: DB Preacher

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The general degradation of the game community as a fun place to be where light-hearted, pompous outrageousness was part and parcel of the forums

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Umm, this I don't understand. Reread the referenced thread. There was a lot of pomposity (sp?) but nothing lighthearted. In fact, I would call it demeaning and at times vicious. Goons were peeing in your sandbox and you hated them for it.

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Originally by: Lee Bian

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Originally by: DB Preacher

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Indeed and pretty much a major reason why alot of "old timers" are moving on. The general degradation of the game community as a fun place to be where light-hearted, pompous outrageousness was part and parcel of the forums has been replaced with oog attacks and simple, direct kiddiespam abuse.

/me shrugs

At least it was fun while it lasted :)

dbp

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is this a fakepost because if it is it's one of the funniest thing i've read on these forums. if it's not it's still funny, but on a whole different level

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Originally by: Malachon Draco

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You ****ed people off with forum spying, and personal attacks on Cyvok. I know Cyvok did the same (Bob basement dwellers and all that), but he did it on private forums, just like Goons are probably doing on their SA forums.

You dragged it out in the open, and it went downhill from there. Just go back over the timeline, it went downhill from the moment you pulled Cyvok's internal speeches out on Eve-O and used it to smear him back. Had that not happened, I am willing to bet that it would not nearly have gotten as bad as it did. Not that I would claim innocence here, though

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Originally by: Malachon Draco

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But questioning a guy's integrity, sanity and ability to lead is an insult that carries over, unless the guy is trying to play an idiot.

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Originally by: Dagam

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Really? Is this your new party line because about a year ago we were seeing quite the opposite.

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Originally by: Malachon Draco

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Well, the RL pictures is a different issue, and I would agree that is another step further.

But the other two are practically the same, only one is direct (Cyvok at you), the other is indirect (you at Cyvok).

Let's analyze it for a minute:
- Cyvok directly said nasty things about you in RL. Personally I would not have taken them seriously at all, since they are obviously false. The 'living in your parents basements' stuff. Its a stereotype. Its like me calling all Scots to be stingy and drunk. An insult about a computergamer to be living in his parents basement is as stereotypical as that.

- Now compare that to what you said about Cyvok. Sure you referred to his ingame persona, but in this case the attributes or charactertraits you referred to, are much less those of his character, as they are of himself in RL. Everyone here I think can imagine a guy liking to fool around in a game and act like a megalomaniac, or a vicious pirate. Those are qualities that are intrinsical to playing the game, or playing a role. But the stuff you said about Cyvok were about character traits where there is no ingame reason to behave in the way you claimed Cyvok did (like being a pirate or megalomaniac). Nor were they qualities that he choose to play in the way you described them. (If you say a clown is acting like an idiot, that different from saying a policeman is acting like an idiot). Cyvok was not trying to roleplay an inept leader, it was not something that is part of the game to exhibit those traits, therefore insulting him on those aspects is in fact an attack on his RL persona.

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Originally by: Shadowsword

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When you kill a Titan by using a very borderline tactic, then gloat about it and taunt D2, for what was in essence a very, very minor mistake (logging off in a pos, without aggro timer when the pilot took the decision to log off), when you use a titan and freighters daily to run bugged trade routes, you can't expect others to just cheer you. All they see is arrogance, and a willingness to do anything that will get you any advantage.

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Originally by: Lee Bian

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dbp took the short space bus to space school

look at me, attacking his ingame character

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Originally by: Lee Bian

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there's a joke here about socially inept nerds (like dbp's ingame character) but i can't be arsed to find it

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Originally by: Nestor Ne'Arthe

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Originally by: DB Preacher

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It would be interesting to see what would have happened to Jade's, Halseths, Hardin's, Morkt Drakt's etc etc commentary on the game had the forums been in a similar mess back then.

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Thankfully the forums were different back then.

During the PA war I loved to read the forums, as most of the posts, aspecially from major players were well constructed and sometimes even had some merit to them.

Jade's posts.. well.. they were state of the art trolling really, well constructed and amusing to read.

What I see here now is 'lol u suk'. "Shut up, you're a goon" "Lol bob" "Go cry to t20 on MSN".

It just proves that the combat should be done with guns in game, as any kind of retoric argumentation on these boards is most likely doomed to fail, mainly due influx of newer players who have nothing to say, nor any culture at all.

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Originally by: Psilocin

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I have the world's smallest violin here, playing just for you.

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